How will the new bans affect the economy? - Page 3 - Guild Wars Forums

Martin Alvito · May 27, 2010, 11:40 PM // 23:40

Anybody that claims they know what will happen with certainty is either misguided or intentionally lying.

If you want a guess, a lot more prospective buyers of minis got wiped out than pets that would have gone back up for resale and actually exchanged hands.

*Darcy* · May 28, 2010, 12:41 AM // 00:41

Prices won't go up because the items weren't on the market, so the market has not been affected. They were being stored on accounts so the owners could gloat over them. One banned botter said he had a Vizu but did he really? And does it make any difference? It wasn't being sold.

Winterclaw · May 28, 2010, 01:49 AM // 01:49

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

Anybody that claims they know what will happen with certainty is either misguided or intentionally lying.

If you want a guess, a lot more prospective buyers of minis got wiped out than pets that would have gone back up for resale and actually exchanged hands.

I can claim with certainty that the game will go on! Unless a meteor falls on ANet's servers or something. I do think you've got a point about there being a little less demand, at least for the high end stuff.

End · May 28, 2010, 02:17 AM // 02:17

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Originally Posted by IlikeGW

That's just a bonus. Stuff that rare shouldn't exist as it shows here the people who buy it are cheaters anyway.

Notice how...AFAIK only 1 got lost in a ban...that should tell you something...

Black Metal · May 29, 2010, 03:08 AM // 03:08

This is an interesting topic to ponder. There's no obvious logic as to what should or will happen, or if anything will happen at all. What I am pretty sure about is that an immense amount of wealth was removed from the game, both in rare items (high-end unded minis, the EL hench I've seen mentioned here) and cash and ectos.

For legit owners of the remaining rare items, who don't intend on parting with them, it must be nice knowing your rare item just got rarer.

HawkofStorms · May 29, 2010, 03:43 AM // 03:43

Did the economy really get screwed up when they started banning the dupers who bought all those rare minis?

Not really. We've already had some of the super rare items removed from the game already from those bans. Judging from past experience, I doubt we will see much of an impact. Sure there might be more "panic mode" from individuals in threads like this, but I don't see much of an impact (and if there is one... I really don't care).

Mavy · May 29, 2010, 09:46 AM // 09:46

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Did the economy really get screwed up when they started banning the dupers who bought all those rare minis?

OF COURSE it was.. I remember buying an unded. Naga for 160e and after 1 year (when the duping related incident occured) the price went to 1400e... Just accept it that banning 3700 of ACTIVE traders will affect the game...

Mintha Syl · May 29, 2010, 02:20 PM // 14:20

For the moment it looks like the price of ectos in raising...

byteme! · May 29, 2010, 04:00 PM // 16:00

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Originally Posted by Mintha Syl

For the moment it looks like the price of ectos in raising...

I'm standing next to the rare material trader as we speak. Ecto is at 7500g at the trader.

[edit]waited 5 minutes....checked trader again and now it's 8000g. Still no sign of rising ecto prices unless you consider this to be a rise in which case I'd like to inform you it's been this way for a while now.

Mintha Syl · May 29, 2010, 04:56 PM // 16:56

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Originally Posted by byteme!

I'm standing next to the rare material trader as we speak. Ecto is at 7500g at the trader.

[edit]waited 5 minutes....checked trader again and now it's 8000g. Still no sign of rising ecto prices unless you consider this to be a rise in which case I'd like to inform you it's been this way for a while now.

Lately I had only seen it at max 7,5k, yesterday it was at 9k. Maybe I didn't check frequently enough

midnightduo1 · May 30, 2010, 05:03 AM // 05:03

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Originally Posted by Mavy

OF COURSE it was.. I remember buying an unded. Naga for 160e and after 1 year (when the duping related incident occured) the price went to 1400e... Just accept it that banning 3700 of ACTIVE traders will affect the game...

A majority of the 3700 were mules or bots considering each person that was banned had at least 3 accounts. The banning probably took out maybe 500 active players or less because let's face it, most of them were afk anyway.

Terrible Surgeon · May 30, 2010, 09:23 AM // 09:23

No noticeable affect will be seen. The people banned were a drop in the bucket of people who farm stuff.

Risus · May 30, 2010, 08:44 PM // 20:44

it means almost nothing, the majority of bots were gold farmers or PvP interrupt botters.
People didn't store their money on those accounts

Yawgmoth · May 30, 2010, 09:50 PM // 21:50

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Originally Posted by Risus

it means almost nothing, the majority of bots were gold farmers or PvP interrupt botters.
People didn't store their money on those accounts

You have probably missed the fact they have been banning all accounts used by the people who botted, not only those on which the bots were actively used on. While there may have been cases where some of their accounts survived, I doubt it's the ones which they transfered significant wealth to.

ManlyMan · May 30, 2010, 11:03 PM // 23:03

Update: NOTHINGS CHANGED.

Economy hasn't changed/crashed like all the botters who got caught and banned hoped for.

May 28, 2010, 12:41 AM // 00:41	#42
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Prices won't go up because the items weren't on the market, so the market has not been affected. They were being stored on accounts so the owners could gloat over them. One banned botter said he had a Vizu but did he really? And does it make any difference? It wasn't being sold. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

May 27, 2010, 11:40 PM // 23:40	#41
Martin Alvito Older Than God (1) Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Clan Dethryche [dth]	Anybody that claims they know what will happen with certainty is either misguided or intentionally lying. If you want a guess, a lot more prospective buyers of minis got wiped out than pets that would have gone back up for resale and actually exchanged hands.

May 29, 2010, 03:08 AM // 03:08	#45
Black Metal Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2009 Profession: N/	This is an interesting topic to ponder. There's no obvious logic as to what should or will happen, or if anything will happen at all. What I am pretty sure about is that an immense amount of wealth was removed from the game, both in rare items (high-end unded minis, the EL hench I've seen mentioned here) and cash and ectos. For legit owners of the remaining rare items, who don't intend on parting with them, it must be nice knowing your rare item just got rarer.

May 29, 2010, 03:43 AM // 03:43	#46
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Did the economy really get screwed up when they started banning the dupers who bought all those rare minis? Not really. We've already had some of the super rare items removed from the game already from those bans. Judging from past experience, I doubt we will see much of an impact. Sure there might be more "panic mode" from individuals in threads like this, but I don't see much of an impact (and if there is one... I really don't care).

May 29, 2010, 02:20 PM // 14:20	#48
Mintha Syl Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2010	For the moment it looks like the price of ectos in raising...

May 30, 2010, 09:23 AM // 09:23	#52
Terrible Surgeon Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2009 Guild: hopper Profession: A/	No noticeable affect will be seen. The people banned were a drop in the bucket of people who farm stuff.

May 30, 2010, 08:44 PM // 20:44	#53
Risus Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: 56min UW HM post-2/25 I win Guild: FDR Profession: A/	it means almost nothing, the majority of bots were gold farmers or PvP interrupt botters. People didn't store their money on those accounts

May 30, 2010, 11:03 PM // 23:03	#55
ManlyMan Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2010	Update: NOTHINGS CHANGED. Economy hasn't changed/crashed like all the botters who got caught and banned hoped for.